25th August 2016

Yogish: Overview of government elementary and secondary school as of March 2013 from ssakarnataka.gov.in

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Where is the shortage of teachers?

I am seeing healthy ratio of 26 in elementary and 18 in secondary. What went wrong

  1. Karnataka budget is allocating around 17000 crores for education out of 1.6 crore rupees of total budget ( as of 2016).
  2. As per the govt web site 90% of the budget allocation goes to teachers salary and admin work.
  3. That means around Rs 15500 crores goes to teachers and admin’s salary(Around an average salary of Rs 30000 per month) purpose.
  4. Remaining Rs 1500 crores goes to school infrastructure or other freebies (I don’t know. you can comment).
  5. We have 74231 schools in Karnataka including primary and secondary.
  6. That means each school will be getting around Rs 2 lakh per year from remaining Rs 1500 crores for school improvements or for other facilities .

Please correct me if anything is wrong. I computed this number using data downloaded from the govt website.

You can send reply to my inbox to avoid too many messages 🙏

Correction : Rs 1.6 lakh crores as of 2016 budget

Data from California govt schools. Students to teacher’s ratio is 21.

Girish Mudigere: Excellent inputs……we shall learn and transform

Guru Poornima: 🙏

Kollegala Sharma: One thing which we dont want to talk about here is the root cause. Corruption. I have been saying this. We dont lack resources in Govt schools. Distribution and implementation is the problem. Mere nos will not tell the real story. All issues we discussed so far make these rosy figures go red. *Quality is not defined in numbers.*

Yogish: I think we should not oppose if govt try to rebalance teachers to students ratio. I think we should not oppose if govt try to close unhealthy schools ( if there are only 25 or less students) in order to improve the school next to it. I am sure govt is going in to right direction . We have to make sure they deliver without any corruption and delay.

For example there are 8 teachers for 120 students (1 to 8 grade) in my Kodikal school. A ratio of 1:15. This is an excellent healthy ratio. No private or government schools opened in Kodikal from past 50 years except few play schools.

However the students strength is reduced in 50 years. I am sure it is mainly because of quality of education. More students moved to private schools. Data shows that good number of teachers are there in Kodikal school, but still less students go there.

As Sharma sir indicated quality is not defined in numbers. 1:15 is just a number

Girish: Increase number of kids is the only solution

Yogish: Academic quality is required to increase the number of students.

Girish : Qualityof our teachers are generally excellent

Yogish: I think everyone has to go their home school and study closely the teaching quality. Of course there are many good teachers.

Girish : Let’s take ownership of government schools…keeping away our greed

Yogish: Shocking results

According to a survey undertaken in 2012 by Pratham, one of three children in class 2 in Maharashtra can’t recognise numbers from 11-99. More than 50% children in class 5 cannot do basic division. Even the baseline test conducted by the state for 74,000 class 9 students was shocking. Over 64% failed in Mathematics, 33% in English and 30% in Marathi.

Girish: Our focus is just improving government schools…..there are few excellent g schools around us amidst of root cause

+91 9……………..: An ideal teacher sincerely regrets response free communication.  The I deal teacher evokes response.

Yogish: We have to stress more on to academics, academics and academics.  nothing else. I am sure we volunteers can fill the gap if schools permits. Let’s go to schools and work with teachers and students to give quality education.

Hemanth Sharma: 👍 agree…we need to first put benchmark

Girish : There are only 32 students for 7 classes…..teachers are excellent

Yogish: We should train/prepare every child to get in to Navodaya kind of school.

Girish : Let’s utilize every minute to take ownership of problems

Yogish: Less than 5 students per class?. How many teachers are there ?

Girish : Five

Guru Poornima: Yes, we must focus on   Academics, every parent expect their children excel in academics, as result rest of things will get managed.

Girish : Let’s take responsibility of soluttions

Guru Poornima: Before that we must have the clear  knowedge of realistic factors responsible.

Girish : Only solution is not closing but increase kids…..let’s do it

Guru Poornima: 👍

Girish : Everyone of us including me is running away instead of going into it

Yogish: Without giving quality education we can not motivate our parents to send their child to govt schools.

Girish: Few years I will prove

Yogish: I agree . Closing is not the solution.  But consolidate in to good one.

Girish : Haaradi is best example

Guru Poornima: Y haraadi  school is best? Shall we analyse?And follow their action?

Yogish: Yes we have to analyze like this. Academics should be on top of the list

  1. Academics including teaching method, knowledge of teachers. Compare with the private school.
  2. Students to teachers ratio
  3. Parents involvement in to child’s academics
  4. SDMC or local leader or community and philanthropist involvement
  5. Infrastructure
  6. Extra curricular activities
  7. Mid day meal and other free stuffs.

Guru Poornima: Yes, realistically speaking ,we have to find solutions for all the above aspects where we are lacking.

Girish Mudigere: We know root causes…..solutions beku…..lets take ownership of solutions……

8/26/16, 07:40 – Core Yogish: No Girish. We did not study the root cause. We need to conduct Root  Cause Analysis (RCA) that every company does when something went wrong.Lets try

Yogish: Honestly we have to conduct RCA before finding the solutions

– Girish Mudigere: Sharma sir mentioned root cause.Other day we spent valuable time with 300 messages on language.We being volunteers try to find solutions like Haaradi

Yogish: Language and Academics are 2 important aspects of any schools. We will not be able to find solution unless we conduct root cause at least in few schools ( both successful and failed schools)

Girish Mudigere: All here may not appreciate too many messages….. Lets focus

+91 9 …………..: ಶಾಲಾ ಅಭಿವೃದ್ಧಿಗೆ ಕೆಲ ಸಲಹೆಗಳು

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1.ಪ್ರತಿ ಹಿರಿಯ ಹಾಗು ಪ್ರೌಢಶಾಲೆಗೆ ಪ್ರೊಜೆಕ್ಟರ್ ಗಳ ಪೂರೈಕೆ

2.ಪ್ರತಿ ಶಾಲೆಗೂ “ವಿದ್ಯಾ ಭಾಗ್ಯ”ಯೋಜನೆಯಡಿ ಉಚಿತ ವಿದ್ಯುತ್ ಸಂಪರ್ಕ.ಉಚಿತ ವಿದ್ಯುತ್ ಪೂರೈಕೆ.

3.ಪ್ರತಿ ಪ್ರೌಢಶಾಲೆಗೆ ಕನಿಷ್ಟ 5 ಲ್ಯಾಪ್ ಟಾಪ್ ಗಳ ಪೂರೈಕೆ(ಅಗ ಯುಪಿಎಸ್,ಬ್ಯಾಟರಿಗಳ ಅವಶ್ಯಕತೆ ಇರುವುದಿಲ್ಲ)ಶಾಲೆಗಳಲ್ಲಿ ಕಂಪ್ಯೂಟರ್ ಗಳ ಕಳವು ನಿಲ್ಲುತ್ತದೆ.ಶಾಲೆ ಊರ ಹೊರ ವಲಯದಲ್ಲಿ ಇದ್ದರೆ laptop ಗಳನ್ನು ಶಿಕ್ಷಕರು ಪ್ರತಿದಿನ ಶಾಲೆಗೆ ತಂದು ನಂತರ ತೆಗೆದುಕೊಂಡು ಹೋಗಬಹುದಾಗಿದೆ.

4.ಪ್ರತಿ ತ್ರೈಮಾಸಿಕಕ್ಕೊಮ್ಮೆ ಪ್ರತಿ ವಿಷಯದ ಬಗ್ಗೆ ಮಾಹಿತಿಗಳನ್ನು software ಮೂಲಕ ಅಭಿವೃದ್ಧಿ ಪಡಿಸಿ ಶಾಲೆಗಳಿಗೆ ನೀಡುವುದು.

5.ಶಾಲೆಯಲ್ಲಿ ಇರುವ ವೃತ್ತಿಶಿಕ್ಷಣ,ಚಿತ್ರಕಲಾ ಶಿಕ್ಷಕರು,ಇನ್ನಿತರ ಶಿಕ್ಷಕರಿಗೆ(ಇತರೆ) ಕಂಪ್ಯೂಟರ್ ತರಬೇತಿ ನೀಡಿ ಅವರನ್ನು ಶಾಲೆಯ ತಂತ್ರಜ್ಞಾನ ಸಂಪನ್ಮೂಲ ಅಧಿಕಾರಿಗಳೆಂದು ಗುರುತಿಸಿ ಜವಾಬ್ದಾರಿಗಳನ್ನು ಹಂಚುವುದು.ಅವರು ತಂತ್ರಜ್ಞಾನಕ್ಕೆ ಸಂಬಂಧಿಸಿದ ಶಾಲೆಯ ಶಾಖೆಯನ್ನು ನಿಭಾಯಿಸುತ್ತಾರೆ.

6.ಪ್ರತಿ ಪ್ರೌಢ ಶಾಲೆಗೆ RMSA ಅಡಿಯಲ್ಲಿ ಬರುವ ಅನುದಾನಗಳನ್ನು laptap ನಿರ್ವಹಣೆಗೆ ಹಾಗೂ ಡಾಟಾ ಕಾರ್ಡ್ ಬಳಸಲು ಹೆಚ್ಚುವರಿ ಅನುದಾನ ನೀಡುವುದು.

7.ಪ್ರತಿ ಪ್ರೌಢ ಶಾಲೆಯಲ್ಲಿ ಲಭ್ಯವಿರುವ ಅನುದಾನದಿಂದ ಉಪಗ್ರಹ ಆಧಾರಿತ ಕಾರ್ಯಕ್ರಮಗಳನ್ನು ವೀಕ್ಷಿಸಲು ಸಹಾಯವಾಗುವಂತೆ ಒಂದು ಟಿವಿ ಖರೀದಿಸಲು,ಸೆಟಲೈಟ್ ರಿಸೀವರ್ ಗಳನ್ನು ಕೊಂಡುಕೊಳ್ಳಲು ಜಿಲ್ಲಾ ಉಪನಿರ್ದೇಶಕರ ಹಂತದಿಂದ ಪರವಾನಿಗೆ ನೀಡುವುದು. ಪ್ರತಿ ಶಾಲೆ ಉಪಗ್ರಹ ಅಧಾರಿತ ಕಾರ್ಯಕ್ರಮಗಳನ್ನು ನೇರವಾಗಿ ವೀಕ್ಷಿಸಲು ಅನುಕೂಲವಾಗುತ್ತದೆ.

Girish Mudigere: Example USA data generally not being appreciated….. Lets try to avoid. Lets take main solutions and work on it

Kollegala Sharma: Yes. That is why I had not uttered the word. As regards Pratham survey, the situation is not different. Eighth standard students cannot recognize alphabets.

Teacher:student ratio is very good in some schools and equally bad in others. In one school that I am visiting there are total 120 students from six sections, and 10 teachers.  One maths, one science, one Kannada. If we normalize subjectwise, per class/standard, per subject the ratio is 1:40. Still manageable.

In another school each class has 90 students. Only one maths teacher. No science. They make do with contract teachers.

One is in city. The second is a remote village,  50 km from taluk head quarters 100 km from district headquarters.

Quality issue is indeed a reality. Let us not close our eyes to it.

Praveen: Dear all, what is being presented here is a macro picture which is far from reality at a school level. There is a general tendency of all teachers wanting to move to urban areas or close to urban areas. So the ratio will be even lower because of the higher number of teachers.

On the other hand in remote areas, there is a severe shortage of teachers. For example, in a Gram Panchayat of HD Kote taluk there are just 14 teachers for 16 primary schools of that area.

Sharma sir can also add based on his visits to B Matakere and other schools.

Naveed Ahmed: Very well articulated respected Dr Chandrashekar sir, Assistant Director, SSA Bangalore…. As a matter of fact we parents sometimes never make to face real-time situation to our children, in turn their innate personality doesn’t grow. We r responsible for that… Thanks for sharing your series of Articles written and sharing here… 💐🌺💐👍🌺💐👍👌👌👌

Yogish: Good point. This will go as one of the root cause in to my RCA.

Poornima: On the other hand there are excess of Teachers with less strength of students,and we  tried to compensate with the other school with shortage of teachers, but still on process …….but y is this??

Lack of interest?

Negligence towards the issue?

Who is answerable fur this?

Macro or micro, we have to consider the realistic aspects and work on it.

Kollegala Sharma: Good point. This was what I was thinking while driving to office.

In education, planning is at Macro level. We need to adopt, at least in DS, the modular approach of software development. Macro picture gives us an idea of resources available, but not the right pucture of their utilization (optimum or otherwise).

We can start from micro level, break into modules, create teams focusing on a module,  recruit volunteers for delivery and consolidate planning at macro level.

This gives us flexibility to bring in localization too.

Yogish: @Sharma sir, I was mainly looking for this point for the lack of teachers in some schools even though we have good number of teachers at macro level.

Kollegala Sharma: I must give one example here. Praveen started with the premise that quality can be improved by providing physical resources like teachingvtolls, stationery etc. A little later, government provided funds for that. Yet there was feeble change. Reason. Teachers engagement. So now an integrated approach is being followed by his team. Resources to teachers in terms of teaching tools, training; direct engagement with students through mobile lab and library and support to schools (not finance) in terms of innovation and mentoring. It has helped.

One interesting data he has is that the focus on science and math’s improved student’s performance in general info in those subjects. But poorly performing schools had relatively more failures in Kannada.

Nagesh TK: ಶಾಲಾ ಅಭಿವೃದ್ಧಿಗೆ ಕೆಲ ಸಲಹೆಗಳು

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1.ಪ್ರತಿ ಹಿರಿಯ ಹಾಗು ಪ್ರೌಢಶಾಲೆಗೆ ಪ್ರೊಜೆಕ್ಟರ್ ಗಳ ಪೂರೈಕೆ

2.ಪ್ರತಿ ಶಾಲೆಗೂ “ವಿದ್ಯಾ ಭಾಗ್ಯ”ಯೋಜನೆಯಡಿ ಉಚಿತ ವಿದ್ಯುತ್ ಸಂಪರ್ಕ.ಉಚಿತ ವಿದ್ಯುತ್ ಪೂರೈಕೆ.

3.ಪ್ರತಿ ಪ್ರೌಢಶಾಲೆಗೆ ಕನಿಷ್ಟ 5 ಲ್ಯಾಪ್ ಟಾಪ್ ಗಳ ಪೂರೈಕೆ(ಅಗ ಯುಪಿಎಸ್,ಬ್ಯಾಟರಿಗಳ ಅವಶ್ಯಕತೆ ಇರುವುದಿಲ್ಲ)ಶಾಲೆಗಳಲ್ಲಿ ಕಂಪ್ಯೂಟರ್ ಗಳ ಕಳವು ನಿಲ್ಲುತ್ತದೆ.ಶಾಲೆ ಊರ ಹೊರ ವಲಯದಲ್ಲಿ ಇದ್ದರೆ laptop ಗಳನ್ನು ಶಿಕ್ಷಕರು ಪ್ರತಿದಿನ ಶಾಲೆಗೆ ತಂದು ನಂತರ ತೆಗೆದುಕೊಂಡು ಹೋಗಬಹುದಾಗಿದೆ.

4.ಪ್ರತಿ ತ್ರೈಮಾಸಿಕಕ್ಕೊಮ್ಮೆ ಪ್ರತಿ ವಿಷಯದ ಬಗ್ಗೆ ಮಾಹಿತಿಗಳನ್ನು software ಮೂಲಕ ಅಭಿವೃದ್ಧಿ ಪಡಿಸಿ ಶಾಲೆಗಳಿಗೆ ನೀಡುವುದು.

5.ಶಾಲೆಯಲ್ಲಿ ಇರುವ ವೃತ್ತಿಶಿಕ್ಷಣ,ಚಿತ್ರಕಲಾ ಶಿಕ್ಷಕರು,ಇನ್ನಿತರ ಶಿಕ್ಷಕರಿಗೆ(ಇತರೆ) ಕಂಪ್ಯೂಟರ್ ತರಬೇತಿ ನೀಡಿ ಅವರನ್ನು ಶಾಲೆಯ ತಂತ್ರಜ್ಞಾನ ಸಂಪನ್ಮೂಲ ಅಧಿಕಾರಿಗಳೆಂದು ಗುರುತಿಸಿ ಜವಾಬ್ದಾರಿಗಳನ್ನು ಹಂಚುವುದು.ಅವರು ತಂತ್ರಜ್ಞಾನಕ್ಕೆ ಸಂಬಂಧಿಸಿದ ಶಾಲೆಯ ಶಾಖೆಯನ್ನು ನಿಭಾಯಿಸುತ್ತಾರೆ.

5.ಪ್ರತಿ ಪ್ರೌಢ ಶಾಲೆಗೆ RMSA ಅಡಿಯಲ್ಲಿ ಬರುವ ಅನುದಾನಗಳನ್ನು laptap ನಿರ್ವಹಣೆಗೆ ಹಾಗೂ ಡಾಟಾ ಕಾರ್ಡ್ ಬಳಸಲು ಹೆಚ್ಚುವರಿ ಅನುದಾನ ನೀಡುವುದು.

6.ಪ್ರತಿ ಪ್ರೌಢ ಶಾಲೆಯಲ್ಲಿ ಲಭ್ಯವಿರುವ ಅನುದಾನದಿಂದ ಉಪಗ್ರಹ ಆಧಾರಿತ ಕಾರ್ಯಕ್ರಮಗಳನ್ನು ವೀಕ್ಷಿಸಲು ಸಹಾಯವಾಗುವಂತೆ ಒಂದು ಟಿವಿ ಖರೀದಿಸಲು,ಸೆಟಲೈಟ್ ರಿಸೀವರ್ ಗಳನ್ನು ಕೊಂಡುಕೊಳ್ಳಲು ಜಿಲ್ಲಾ ಉಪನಿರ್ದೇಶಕರ ಹಂತದಿಂದ ಪರವಾನಿಗೆ ನೀಡುವುದು. ಪ್ರತಿ ಶಾಲೆ ಉಪಗ್ರಹ ಅಧಾರಿತ ಕಾರ್ಯಕ್ರಮಗಳನ್ನು ನೇರವಾಗಿ ವೀಕ್ಷಿಸಲು ಅನುಕೂಲವಾಗುತ್ತದೆ.

Praveen: Another crucial point which goes a big way in terms of quality is the number of teachers at a school level subject wise.

Right to Education act mandates that there should be a subject wise teacher from classes 6th to 10th in all schools. This is a big ask considering that there should be an upper primary school within 3 km of any household.

It definitely makes sense to have a separate teacher for Kannada and Science! But..

Taking the above norm into consideration, the expected pupil teacher ratio of 30:1 becomes redundant. If we were to appoint teachers as per RTE norms, the ratio might come to around 10:1, which is financially unviable for the government.

Girish : Kindly avoid forwarded messages sir

Yogish: So many times this Finland  messages is forwarded in this group. Can we please stop ?

Girish Mudigere: Communication is a challenge….. 21 st century……..connecting 125000 schools is big challenge now

+91 9…….. added +91 9 ………….

Satish Kadashettihalli: Media  attached

Chaya Chandra Acharya: Sir , why cannot they follow kendriya vidyalaya model. In all aspect it matches with Govt School. Till 5th all the teacher should know all 5 subjects. No issues.

From 6th std-12th std subject wise

Wherever shortage,  teachers r recruited

Quarterly 2400 is collected from students

Entire fees collection is centralized

Region offices take this responsibility of inspection, providing adhoc teacher, providing basic infrastructure

The best part is every CBSE school(private) ,calls always KV teacher as their resource person

Some of the teacher’s r too excellent

Inspire of politics, good teachers r respected properly,Read inspire as in spite of

Girish Mudigere: Satish Sir…..excellent sir…..v v inspiring

Hemanth Sharma: Madam, situation in kV and state school are not same target students and objective are totally different, kV are basically started for children of center govt employee who are prone to transfer from state to state they already have mean and motivation to send their kids to school. State schools are usually for lowest stratagem in society where thinking  is to use kid to generate some income. So as yogish sir says we first need to do ground work to understand the real issues that can be addressed with current resources

Kollegala Sharma: Parents play a great part

Girish Mudigere: I feel huge ground work already done by professional offices, teams etc……we ordinary volunteers do not spend more time to spend.Lets try to visit nearest schools daily in one way or other

+91 9 ……………..: Media attached

Chaya Chandra Acharya: Hemantji, u r correct in one way. What I mean to say is, kV changes its policy faster than govt school. I studied in govt school.  But definitely my parents would not have send me govt school. Adaptability in govt school is very very low where as kV is faster. There are Hindi belt area teachers in kV a lot. But as soon as they come to Bangalore they learn English. Reason children teach them. The condition is same. Teachers are not motivated, lazy , etc is visible, but recruitment process is very good, so some level of knowledge transfer happens

Guru Poornima: Chaya I agree with you.We can adapt KV model.To certain extent adaptability is possible if not 100%

Chaya Chandra Acharya: 20-30  years back govt school were good. May be the reason in English, govt would have trained teachers to talk in English immediately, instead it strict to its Kannada policy. Sorry girishji , my reply is only on adaptability. Even we r adopting to situations by and large in all areas

Hemanth Sharma: I studied in kV and I am proud of it infact I might have sent my kids too  there if at all possible, but state schools have needs that are different that’s what we are discussing… I believe if output is same even as that of kV most of the problem will solved.

Chaya Chandra Acharya: I agree with u hemantji. But need is govt should respond to new needs faster. In kV also it takes lot of time but teachers r forced to adopt fast because their inspection wing changes its formats immediately, so things change.Very very right

Linnet D Silva: I disagree with levels of schooling. Kids are kids of our honourable country. They should have equal opportunity to be resourceful to live and  contribute for nation building. Right to education should guarantee and we have the responsibility as citizens to demand it from duty bearers.

Hemanth Sharma: 👍I agree with you chaya ji, about English I have full discussion on it.

Linnet D Silva: Again we are with medium. It should be not of importance. Knowledge skills values be priority

Hemanth Sharma: I too agree with you similar opportunity should be there for everyone… Free education for all should be aim

Linnet D Silva: That’s right.

Kollegala Sharma: Now. We are on to the point.

What is it we expect from govt schools.

  1. They should compete with private schools in infra and ‘discipline’
  2. They should make children score well

3.They should make children employable

  1. They should make students self-reliant
  2. Provide employees to govt
  3. Help in preserving our language n culture
  4. Make students competent to compete globally
  5. Provide employment to teachers
  6. Should be centres of learning.

Looking at the discussions we are having for the past two months and the expectations from schools therein, I think, these are the things we want our schools to do.

Are we correct? How many of these are student-centric and how many of these are our-wish centric?

Chaya Chandra Acharya: Linbet madam, I agree with u. See again in kV RTE is there. Immediately govt given permission to recruit counselleor and 2-3 addition teachers. Again performance of  R T E children is better compared to other. I am not talking abt English, I am talking only abt adoptability of schools to new situation. In fact kV children speak Hindi also very very fluently, Sanskrit also. Recently Kannada is also introduced. Children learn anything. Good or bad is in our mind

Linnet D Silva: Whether a person is rich or the deprived of opportunity due to our history or system,  the present choice is ours. We have responsibility because we are in the present. Observe the past visualize the future,but act now

Chaya Chandra Acharya: Sir, super. It is easy to practice. I have trained orphanage children to present 1 hour drama in English. They presented nicely. Nowadays they prepare assembly programme in English on their own. Kannada anyway they do

Hemanth Sharma: 👍

Linnet D Silva: I am for any number of languages.But what are they learning?

Chaya Chandra Acharya: Even now, I understand everything in Kannada only. Whatever I read in English, I try to understand in Kannada. Kannada is in blood. So it is not at all an issue.

Linnet D Silva: In what condition we learn. Just because domestic helper,  Cooley worker,  etc. One is deprived of even decent seating??…….

Girish : We regularly talk to nearby people by any means…..we can bring changes

Kollegala Sharma: What do we want from schools? If we are clear, we can work towards it.

I believe the school is a place where we learn to learn. In many schoold I found this missing.

Linnet D Silva: In a school. They have no toilets,  even if there are there is no water?  Etc

Chaya Chandra Acharya: I started new thing in my Schiol. Everyday learn 5 English word and 10 Kannada word. It is giving excellent result. Children r enjoying.S sir. For every problem there is solution.

Linnet D Silva: Media attached An example

Kollegala Sharma: Media attached

Chaya Chandra Acharya: Good idea. I will adopt

Guru Poornima: OMG😀

Chaya Chandra Acharya: I pity

Kollegala Sharma: Trying different and subtle methods of assessment which also is engaging.

Guru Poornima: Really amazing

Chaya Chandra Acharya: Putting small small steps improves result

Kollegala Sharma: Learning is a continuous activity. It should not stop at the doors of the school.Learning=schooling

Guru Poornima: Very True.

Linnet D Silva: Learning to learn. Learning to live decently with basic human rights enjoying them and seeing that others too have opportunity to enjoy theirs of cource without exploitation. Is education. It is life long.

Satish Kadashettihalli: Thank you very much sir.Please give me the details of oduva kale programme

Kollegala Sharma: I had said that unless I receive at least 15 cards I will consider that they are not interested in learning. The boy who couldnt even identify an alphabet had vociferously shouted that the class would send 35. Did he work? I have received 25 already. To post many had to go to neighbouring villages or seek friends help. This shows that the students have taken up the gauntlet. Now I have to keep my word.

One student has written two sentences (with spelling mistakes) asking me to visit again. He is definitely my target in that school.

Guru Poornima: I too need it sir

Kollegala Sharma: This is a activity I started to help 8th standard students to improve their writing and reading skills. It is based on activities. Initially through games I will introduce the things needed for reading. Then get them practice fast reading, writing and comprehension. The program depends largely on teachers involvement too.

Guru Poornima: We can a conduct a workshop on this concept

Hemanth Sharma: Sharma sir, can you guidevus to  oduva kale program

Kollegala Sharma: There is no ppt. BB, chalk, books and ಬಾಯಿ.😊

Hemanth Sharma: What it means in English

Kollegala Sharma: As a experiment I started in seven schools (chosen because of teachers interest). The programme is evolving and will share full details when it stabilizes.Art of reading /studying

Hemanth Sharma: Thanks.Yes with simple techniques

Satish Kadashettihalli: If can give your oduva kale class in our school, it would be more helpful for our students sir.

Kollegala Sharma: We thought of this because one complaint from teachers was that students do not have the basucs of reading and at high school level it is too late. We thought of this as a corrective programme. But I see a lot more in it.Techniques im proptu. Simple. Low on funds. I am now spending on just fuel, some books, erasers and post cards.

Kollegala Sharma: All myself. To see if it helps.Which school?

Anantha Padmanabha: If any one have interest to attend oduva kale progm….pls do come to ghs mullur ..h.d kote tq .Mysore ..timings 9 am to 12 pm …date 27/8/16

Satish Kadashettihalli: GHPS, Kadashettihalli, Gabbi Taluk, Tumkur District. Ph: 9 …………..

Girish : Welcome Habib Khader Sir,This is not complete kannada team sir

But you can write kannada sir……request others to sustain please

+91 98 ………: Media attached

Girish : Let’s focus on improvement ideas if government schools.All other things are support tools …….lets utilize available items

Kollegala Sharma: School dropout biggest crisis in India: Singapore Deputy PM: http://www.deccanherald.com/content/567027/school-dropout-biggest-crisis-india.html

+91 9 ………….: Last year one of my student complained about dis to the child rights and that boy was working in a chicken center they solved that case and  now the boy is  studying in govt school

Dr Sandeep Nayak: Good.👍🏽

+91 9 ……………: I work in CMCA as volunteer to create this type of awareness in  govt school children

Dr Sandeep Nayak: Interesting. Can you please elaborate about your activities?

+91 96 ………..: In group sir

Dr Sandeep Nayak: Yes. We all are interested in developing govt schools. We love to hear various activities and thoughts and patterns of works people do in this regard.

+91 96 ……………..: I work in CMCA ngo as  volunteer,CMCA means Children movement for civic awareness.So we should  create

Awareness in children about child labour, bbmp, bescom, vanitha Sahaya  vani etc

In Govt school  dey allot  weekly one period for us

Core Guru Poornima: Excellent Suma👍Where is CMCA located in Blore?

+91 9 ………….: Koramangala

Nagesh TK: Media attached

+91 96 ……….: Main office located here

Dr Sandeep Nayak: Awesome. Do you guys also measure the impact of your awareness?

Guru Poornima: 👍

+91 ………..: Yes of course

Dr Sandeep Nayak: Awesome! 👍🏽🙏🏽

+91 9 ,,,,,,,,,,,,,: I work in chikkabidarakallu

Dey alloted me 8 and  8 b

Today 4 students called bescom bbmp nd I got message from bbmp nd bescom

Rahul Dravid and Ramesh aravind are ambassadors

8 Yogish: Thank you all. Very good discussion and good inputs from everyone. I too agree that KV model must be good. Here is the reason behind this.

My sister in law is math teacher in Delhi Public School. Her children are going to the same school. Another sister in law is science teacher in govt school, but she is sending her children to private school (Sharada Vidyalaya). Parents know which one is right for their children and why.

Also, Freedom of language is as important as freedom of speech.

All inputs of today will be part of study and analysis.  Thank you all 🙏

Hemanth Sharma added +91 8  ……………  Hi pinky this the group where we are discussing about development of govt school and focus is always on this topic.

Yogish: @ Nagesh good program.

Hemanth Sharma: Dear all , pinky is a govt teacher from uttarakhand Teri garwal. She would like to share her experience she has a page in Facebook dedicated to her school. Pinky mam can you please introduce yourself here

https://www.facebook.com/Gps-Bhauna-Talla-bhilangna-Tehri-780178108746090/ Govt school page

Girish Mudigere: Welcome and lets spread…..mutually benefit for kids

Guru Poornima: Creative programme 👍

Harshiya Bhanu: You r most welcome to our group Pinky mam💐💐💐💐💐

Girish Mudigere: Kindly wait sir…..sure soneone respond

Yogish: If anyone want to know the full data that I shared please go to http://ssakarnataka.gov.in/pdfs/aboutus/edn_profile_state.pdf

+91 …………….: Hello everyone …I  m Pinki Panwar…Asst Teacher in GPS Bhauna Talla Tehri Garhwal.

+91 8 ………….: Thnx Arshiya Bhanu….

Girish Mudigere: We expand to your state mam

Guru Poornima: Welcome  Pinki  Panwar🙏

Sai Kalleshachar: Media attached

+91 8 ………: Thnx  Poornima

Ok mam…I dnt ur name dats y I hve written ur cntct no.😊These r some pix of my scl….

Media attached

I hve published a scl magazine….

Yogish: Pinki Panwar Welcome to develop school team 🙏. Please visit mangalorelink.com/school. Our focus is only to develop government schools everywhere

+91 8 ………….: Thnx Yogish ji….ok I’ll visit…

Sai Kalleshachar: Media attached

+91 8 …………..: Inko aisa banane mein 3 years ka time lag gya mam.

Guru Poornima: Excellent

+91 ………..: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻thnx mam

Guru Poornima: 👍 🙏👍

Girish Mudigere: Yes

Guru Poornima: Kallesh sir which place?

+91 8 …….: Kallesh sir nice pix

Girish Mudigere: Excellent…… Whole area should be already developed …….lets make excellent Singapore+

Sai Kalleshachar: Kondadahalli channagiri tq Davangere dt 🙏

Guru Poornima: 👍 😊

Nagesh TK: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

Yogish: https://vimeo.com/180203473.

Girish Mudigere added  Dr Ganesh K

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