15th Sept 2016

Co-ordinator

+91 81………: Vijay Karnataka: ಸ್ಕಾಲರ್‌ಶಿಪ್ ಹಣ ಉಳಿಸಿ ಶಾಲೆಗೆ ಟಾಯ್ಲೆಟ್ ಕಟ್ಟಿಸಿಕೊಟ್ಟ ಅಕ್ಕ-ತಮ್ಮ

http://npapp.in/cY9i5a/a11aa via @newspoint: http://npt.indiatimes.com

Dasappa: Today chinnara kaajaana programme conducted in Gowtham scl with Beluru raghunandan sir and manjula madam…Hole day kannada da prasidda kavigal kavithe matthu makkalinda kavitha vachana madalayithu…

Paramesha: Sir 15th is Thursday right. It says Wednesday. It was today or yesterday? Whatever it might be its excellent activity

Manjula 3: Thanking sir from HM and staff GHPS Hosakote garani  cluster. I D Halli hobli.Madhugiri taluk. ಇದು ಮಧುಗಿರಿ ತಾಲೊಕ್ ನ ಹೊಸಕೋಟೆ  ಎ೦ಬ village. ಅಲ್ಲಿನ school. ಗೆ shortage. ಇರುವ೦ತ materials. List ಕಳಿಸಿದಾರೆ. Thank u Girish. Ji am also giving some materials. Ji

Core

+91 99…..: ಶಿಕ್ಷಣ ವ್ಯವಸ್ಥೆಯ ಲೋಪದೋಷಗಳು ಮತ್ತು ಸುಧಾರಣೆಯ ಮಾರ್ಗಗಳು http://bit.ly/2cV4TJQ

Ahmed: Loss for Govt schools

Mudigere: How to stop above?

Yogish: RTE is good as long as govt schools don’t lose children. We can stop if we follow the following process:

  1. Very first step is to adopt the school by forming local society or NGO with the help of local people or local NGO’s
  2. Then follow the guidelines of Prakash Anchan.

I guess there is no easy solution

Mudigere: RTE meaning and implementation are totally distorted. RTE is spoiling government schools by which RTE itself is at stake.

Yogish: Recently Kodikal school lost 25% of new enrollment. 25% of the Children living in Kodikal govt school are now going to nearby aided school because they get all the facilities of govt school including mid-day meal, free books, and free education. School is arranged free bus facility for those kids. So parents are ready to send their kids to any private school because there is no cost involved to get quality education including English medium. I don’t think that RTE is distorted. Right to Education is now available in private schools too.

Mudigere: Taxi near airport comes at lesser price due to excellent volvo buses …..during day and mid night too……now volvo buses reduced in midnight…….taxi became expensive

Same will happen to Aided or nongovernmental schools when government schools reduce

SC Nagesh TK: ಯೋಗಿಶ್ ಸರ್ ಮತ್ತು ಗಿರೀಶ್ ಸರ್ ನಿಮ್ಮಿಬ್ಬರ ವಿಚಾರಗಳು ಚಿಂತನೆ ಮಾಡುವಂತದ್ದೆ ,ಆದ್ರೆ ನಮ್ಮ ಸರ್ಕಾರಿ ಶಾಲೆಗಳು ಸಭಲಗೊಂಡು ಪೋಷಕರು ಇಚ್ಛಿಸುವ ಶಿಕ್ಷಣ ಅವರ ಮಕ್ಕಳಿಗೆ ನಮ್ಮ ಸರ್ಕಾರಿ ಶಾಲೆಗಳಲ್ಲಿ ಸಿಗುವಂತಾದರೆ ಯಾವ r t e ಕೂಡ ಮಾರಕವಲ್ಲ ಸರ್

Yogish: Median expenditure by govt per student is about 12000. Now let’s say govt insist private or aided school to reserve 25% for RTE students and they pass that amount to private school.

Now let’s say there are 100 new enrollment in private school. They reserve 25 seats to RTE and snatch 25×12000 = Rs 3 lakhs from govt. They appoint a temporary teacher for 25 students and pay Rs 7000 per month. Their expense is 7000×12 months = Rs 84000.

Rest of the overhead remains same . Now you can calculate their profit. Very profitable and they can continue to stay in the education business as long as they have good number of students enrollment.

There is already a good reputation (or may be illusion of parents) is there for private school. Therefore

They send their children to private schools.Now children get quality and English education for free due to RTE act. Quality of education provided by temporary teachers in private school still in question 😊

Nagesh TK: ಈ ಎಲ್ಲಾ ಪ್ರಶ್ನೆಗಳಿಗೆ ನಮ್ಮ ಸರ್ಕಾರಿ ಶಾಲೆಗಳು ಉತ್ತರವಾಗಬೇಕು ಸರ್

91 78……: How it is correct how still it can be better, we can involve our org. In the team,

Mudigere: Abinash can you try ti contact above please

Hemanth Sharma: This I too calculated but one thing is sure govt is not going to provide this amount to private schools atleast not in near future… this is reason RTE came to picture it is far cheaper to provide education in private school for govt. than arranging that themselves and the same thing is asked by students too but to provide this subsidy private schools are going to kill middle class and education is going to be more costly for others not in RTE category

Sandeep Nayak: I look at it in this way. RTE is made to siphon money from public sector to private sector. Like Yashaswini Scheme in healthcare. Rather than strengthening govt hospitals, they outsourced to private sector in the name of insurance premium.

Yogish: Dr. Sandeep, outsourcing happens everywhere in the world. Millions of jobs are now outsourced from USA to India and China to reduce the cost.  Those jobs will never come back to USA unless there is a huge quality issues. Similarly govt is outsourcing the health care and education sector jobs to private sectors to reduce the cost. Those jobs will never come back to govt sectors. This situation is created in all the govt sectors mainly due to corruption and lack of accountability.

Hemanth Sharma: Agree but this cannot be reason for using RTE this way..it could be side effect…if govt is able to improve quality on its own without too much overhead RTE in its current form might never have been even proposed, so need to strengthen public institutions and also keep vigil on public institutions… with technology it will be possible too very soon

Yogish: Yes, today the service from public sector banking  is improved a lot mainly due to the use of technology. Telecom sector too is improved to some extent due to technology.Recently have you seen any customs officers asking bribe in airport ?. CCTV camera’s watching them everywhere. We have to bring technology everywhere to monitor until people are get used to the honesty and accountability.

I think we have seen enough messages for engineers day. Let’s not wish or post anymore. Please read previous messages before posting . Thank you ! Now 25% of RTE students are low hanging fruits for these private schools. And they know the source of these low hanging fruits. No effort is required to grab.

Krishnamurthy: Govt should stop giving permission to new schools in the same vicinity instead encourage take over govt Schools

+91 81….: Vijay Karnataka: ಸ್ಕಾಲರ್‌ಶಿಪ್ ಹಣ ಉಳಿಸಿ, ಶಾಲೆಗೆ ಟಾಯ್ಲೆಟ್ ಕಟ್ಟಿಸಿಕೊಟ್ಟ ಅಕ್ಕ-ತಮ್ಮ

http://npapp.in/cY9i5a/a11aa via @newspoint: http://npt.indiatimes.com

Hemanth Sharma: Welcome Mr mahesh. He is in Health Department at Hoovinahadagali and interested to work on helping schools and PHCs.Mr Mahesh wants to conduct Rasberry training through Kiran’s help there . I will Mr mahesh sir in sept 24 event too. I will add

Mudigere: Good discussions…..now lets focus on improving GS .Good news is that many many are spreading good word.This should open up hearts of officialscorporators administrators

SC Nagesh TK: #ಪಾಲೋಅಪ್ #ಸುಮಿತ್ರ_ಕೋಳೂರು

#ಧೋಪೇನಹಟ್ಟಿ_ರಸ್ತೆ_ಸಮೀಕ್ಷೆ_ರಸ್ತೆನಿರ್ಮಾಣಕ್ಕೆ_ಚಾಲನೆ

ಈ ಧಾರವಾಡ ತಾಲೂಕಿನ ಧೋಪೇನಹಟ್ಟಿ ಗ್ರಾಮದ ಸರಕಾರಿ ಶಾಲೆ ಶಿಕ್ಷಕಿ ಸುಮಿತ್ರ ಕೋಳೂರು ಅವರು ನಿತ್ಯವೂ ಕಾಡಲ್ಲಿ ನಡೆದು ಹೋಗುವ ಬಗ್ಗೆ ಒಂದು ಸ್ಟೇಟಸ್ ಹಾಕಿ, ಲೈಕು ಕಾಮೆಂಟಿಗಿಂತ ನೆರವಾಗುವ ಬಗ್ಗೆ ಒಂದು ಪ್ರಯತ್ನವನ್ನು ಮಾಡಿದ್ದೆವು. ಈ ಪ್ರಯತ್ನ ಫಲ ಕೊಟ್ಟಿದೆ. ರಸ್ತೆಯ ಸರ್ವೆ ಆಗಿ ರಸ್ತೆ ನಿರ್ಮಾಣದ ಹಂತಕ್ಕೆ ಬಂದಿದೆ. ಇದು ಆಗುವವರೆಗೂ ಫಾಲೋಅಪ್ ಮಾಡಬೇಕಾಗುತ್ತೆ. ಇದು ಒಬ್ಬರ ಶ್ರಮ ಖಂಡಿತಾ ಅಲ್ಲ. ಇದರ ಕ್ರೆಡಿಟ್ ತುಂಬಾ ಜನರಿಗೆ ಹೋಗುತ್ತದೆ. ಆರಂಭಕ್ಕೆ ವರದಿ ಮಾಡಿದ #ವಾರ್ತಾಭಾರತಿ , ಇದನ್ನು ಶೇರ್ ಮಾಡಿದ್ದ ಪಂಡಿತಾರಾಧ್ಯ ಮೈಸೂರು, ನಂತರ ಇಂತಹದ್ದೊಂದು ಕ್ರಿಯಾತ್ಮಕ ಸಲಹೆ ನೀಡಿದ MG Chandrashekaraiah ಸಾರ್, ಇದಕ್ಕೆ ಪ್ರತಿಕ್ರಿಯಿಸಿ ಬೆಂಬಲಿಸಿ ಪಾಲೋಅಪ್ ಮಾಡಿದ Dinesh Amin ಸಾರ್, ಮಾಧ್ಯಮದ ಮೂಲಕ ನೆರವಿಗೆ ಬಂದ ಗೆಳೆಯ Manojkumar Guddi, ಈ ಫಾಲೋ ಅಪ್ ವರದಿ ಮಾಡಿದ ಪ್ರಜಾವಾಣಿಯ ವಿಕ್ರಂ ಕಾಂತಿಕೆರೆ, ಸುಮಿತ್ರಾ ಅವರ ಸಹೋದರ Sanju Kolur , ಬೆಂಬಲಿಸಿ ಸ್ಪಂದಿಸಿದ Jayalaxmi Patil, ಆಡಳಿತಾತ್ಮಕವಾಗಿ ಸ್ಪಂದಿಸಿದ ಕೆ.ಎಸ್.ಆರ್.ಟಿ.ಸಿ ಅಧಿಕಾರಿ ವರ್ಗಕ್ಕೂ, ಸ್ಟೇಟಸ್ ಗೆ ಸ್ಪಂದಿಸಿ ಶೇರ್ ಕಾಮೆಂಟ್ ಮಾಡಿದವರಿಗೂ ಕೃತಜ್ಞತೆಗಳು.

ಸೋಸಿಯಲ್ ಮೀಡಿಯಾವನ್ನು ಹೀಗೂ ಬಳಸಬಹುದು ಎನ್ನುವುದಕ್ಕೆ ಇದೊಂದು ಮಾದರಿ.

Mudigere: Excellent input. This is  best example to improve government schools

Raghavendra N: Hope you are asking me. I’m raghavendra, n

Working as Block Resource Co- ordinator of Hiriyur Taluk of Chitradurga district.

 

Training:

Ghouse: The workshop venue was legislature bhavan ? Did I miss some updates about venue ?

Yogish: Venue is changed to Annasandrapalya school in Vimanapura . This is already updated in web page. Driving direction too is given in web page. Now learning GUI programming in Python by referring chapter 7. Added Mrs. Kusumalatha in to this group. This is a temporary whatsup group created to communicate with  the volunteers who are registered to attend our Sept 24 workshop. Mr. Kiran from Infosys CSR team is conducting workshop. I guess 333A frequency is very less. It’s better to take 333 (more frequency) and take auto from HAL gate to Annasandrapalya school ( just 2 km). Please double check with others. If someone in this group confirm about the 333 bus number and the bus stop name to get down, I can put these info in our website

GI RaviRaj: Could anyone in the group guide me to the venue from Majestic as I’m coming from tumkur and the Google map won’t help me much..I need the bus routes direction n landmark area to locate the school ….plz help me

Kollegala Sharma: But great use of technology to guide locals frim abroad

Prabhu: On Saturday I am going to Annasandrapalya school to see the arrangements for this event, I will be there at around 11 PM. Anyone interested, staying nearby,  can join me . Also, as part of SocioActive initiative, we provide school kits ( bag, books etc.) to few schools, glps Murugesh Palya is one of these, I will be there at around 9.30 am, * 11 am

+91 7……….: Prabhu, why not you also give a try.. Guru any progress ? You can call me any time for online help 😉

Paramesha: Yes I will do small projects today…and let you know Kiran…Yogish already reacher 7th Chapter..: *reached

Yogish: Yes, because I don’t have an access for free workshop 😄

Paramesha: U conduct one in US

Prabhu: I have asked my daughter to try, she is in 9th. Don’t know the outcome yet. Delegation 😄

Mudigere: Mostly i come sir

Prabhu: Thanks Girish I will call you before I start, I am coming from HSR

91 7…….: I would love to.. as long as somebody takes care of my Travel .Call me when she is trying

Paramesha: Virtually you can address. .y to waste money we can 50 sets of Raspberry Kits to govt schools . We can buy

Krishnamurthy: It was decided to assemble near SBI Bank HAL. then collectively we can move to School after picking out of Bangalore participants by locals who are self driving with their vehicles to venue

Yogish: I guess 333 goes to sbi bank HAL?

Krishnamurthy: Yes, it passes through ,ask for old airport stop

Krishnamurthy: (Or) HAL stop

Krishnamurthy: I respect sir mV , Let us not deviate

Yogish added MUST Shyla P, MUST SowBhagya Lakshmi, +91 99722 17958, +91 99727 27300

Added following for the Sept 24 workshop and also to this whatsup group.

  1. Sowbhagya Lskshmi Bai K
  2. Shyla P
  3. RAJASHEKHAR S Patil
  4. HAREESHA SK

 

Welcome to all new participants.

All new registrants please go to

http://developschools.org/projects/events/workshop-on-creative-computing-using-scratch-on-raspberry-pi for more details

All new registrants, please introduce yourself

Kiran, we reached to our target enrolment of 30+2. You can exclude me and you from enrolment list. I will not add any new registrants in to this group as we have reached the limit. But I will keep the enrolment open until sept 24 for the next batch of workshop that will happen in another school in October.

As you suggested we can put new registrants in to next bucket and request them to join our October workshop.

Shyla P: Shyla. P. Head mistress, Govt Girls High school, Magadi Town Magadi Ramanagara District

+91 98………: Mohammed Ali, TL in MNC bank, Infantry road

91 7……..: Let’s add up to 40 here I expect few last min dropouts and also due to prevailing unrest in BLR

Yogish: Ok. Agreed 👍

Yogish: Kiran, few participants indicated that they are going to bring raspberry Pi kit. Please append if you have any suggestion to them. Thank you !

+91 7……..: Dear all who have Raspberry Pi please read this minutes point no 4

+91 9…….. HAREESHA sk HEADMASTER GOVT HIGH SCHOOL HONGANURU CHANNAPATNA to RAMANAGARA dist

+91 98451 39799: Sir, how much price for Raspberry pi. I didn’t see before How I can buy n how it looks. What all the parts. Can we use like laptop with win OS

Paramesha: Complete kit / 4k/

Hemanth Sharma: It needs to be used with Linux raspberry a fork version. Window requirements are too big to fit in. There is no hardisk, micro SD card is used in its place

+91 9……..: I think this is CPU of RB. Thanks you hemanth sir , can I call u

Sharma: Difficult for me to hear on phone…u r correct sir that is cpu that is what you will get in a kit…you will also need usb keyboard, mouse and monitor, if you have hdtv then hdmi port can be used

To let tv work as monitor

Paramesha: For all first time users I suggest to come for the workshop and get the first-hand experience then you can decide on purchase. yes plz call Kiran

+91 7………: You can call me I will guide you 9……..- Kiran. You can use Open Office similar to Microsoft Office. There are Pros and cons each have their own advantages and purpose for which they are built.Win Os is only for IoT applications on Raspberry Pi

Sharma: Welcome Mr mahesh. He is in Health Department at Hoovinahadagali and interested to work on helping schools and PHCs

Mr Mahesh wants to conduct Rasberry training through Kiran’s help there

+91 8…….: Thank you very much for your invitation to the valuable work shop.

Yogish: I just added Mr Shambu K in to this group. He enrolled to participate in workshop through our website

+91 77……..: Good Mahesh, how can I help you ?

+91 97……….: Something concept Girish sir said so on that concept you may help with your potential knowledge

+91 7……..: Creative Computing Concept

Mudigere: Mahesh sir…..kindly observe discussion s for few days. Sep 24 we have training here. You will observe relevant discussions point needed for you

+91 7……: Brief detail is on Develop Govt school portal more on 24 th workshop

Yogish: Kiran, I just added list of participants in our website including link to download the list in XL

: At least 10 participants indicated to bring Pi Kit.👍

+91 7…….: Wow 😊I need to charge commission from Element14

Yogish: Participants are coming from following districts:

Bangalore

Mysore

Kolar

Ramanagar

Mandya

Tumakur

No problem. Then u can pass that to govt school 😉

+91 7…….: I will send them instructions to prepare SD card and basics of scratch. Does the list has their email ? Yes , but only whoever registered online.

Krishnamurthy: Yogish: shall I start collecting data about participants to enter into our master database?

SowBhagya Lakshmi: Hello, i am Sowbhagya Lakshmi Bai K.

Kannada lecturer,St.Teresa’s women’s Teachers’ training institute, chamarajpet, bengaluru-18,  interested  in the devt of govt schools as I have studied in such school, I don’t know what I can do but after joining in this group, sure with your help I will try.

For adding me to this training, when my brother Gopal sent me the link, I filled the format, but when I clicked on submit, it didn’t accepted.

Yogish: http://developschools.org/projects/events/workshop-on-creative-computing-using-scratch-on-raspberry-pi#Full_list_of_participants.Go to http://developschools.org/projects/events/workshop-on-creative-computing-using-scratch-on-raspberry-pi . Then go to all the way to bottom of the page to view the list.Yes. Their phone number and email ID’s collected through website. You can request them to join our group if they are not already in our group and add their name in to our volunteers list.Krishnamurthy sir, You can ask participants ( to join as volunteers) here itself

 

Edu and health discuss

Dr MD Shivraja: Hi..posting very very interesting case..plze read leisurely and patiently.👍🏾👇🏾

But no cause is find out!!.His symptoms continued till date without any relief. 13 yrs boy son of illiterate PARENTS presented to me during busy OPD hrs with history of recurrent episodes of severe headache. Recurrent episodes of severe abdominal pain. Recurrent episodes of Giddiness. Recurrent episodes of sudden speech loss since 6 months. He has been admitted to several hospitals and investigated thoroughly by reputed medical college(s)!! By Detailed counselling involving parents and school teacher….I found some interesting facts😊

On analysis…His IQ were 1.mathematical IQ 40.2.linguistic IQ *50 for all languages!. Interesting and intrapersonal IQ 80. All his illness episodes were during school hrs only!! None on Sunday and holidays. He is below average kid as per his class teachers.PARENTS being illiterate not bothers..( They are PAY-Rents)..Paid some rent( fees) and forgotten😊.Wondered how he is passed till 7 th!!

Teachers revealed…As per Government policy no kids should’ve failed or detained in same class. He is just pushed!!

Mudigere: Dr excellent….. Let’s discuss volumes ……exceptions cannot be excuses to whole system.There are excellent teachers who transformed kids positively

Dr MD Shivraja: As a learning disabilities counsellor….I asked PARENTS to bring him on Sunday for bit detailed analysis. Now story will take twist. And it’s really amazing. All schools teachers and educationist should read further .We analysed him first for his Dominance…( Mean Rt.brain or left brain dominance) by series of questions…He turns out be Rt brain dominant.( Rt.brain dominance are usually CREATIVE.left brain dominance are usually ANALYTICAL) .I took personal interest and asked him about areas of interest…( what he love to do)…He took some time and told his INTEREST…

We NURTURED his INTEREST….You all won’t believe it…with in a span of 6 months…He showed what he actually is to this world.

Rakesh Gowda: Everyone has their own interest in other fields …but parents push them to only concentrate on studies

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