11th Sept 2016



Kollegala Sharma: There are Private schools which provide food to students. Some provide freely and some on payment. These schools have good admissions. One Private school chain has made it a policy. The question we need to ask is, when the same facility is available in *all* government schools, why is it that admissions are going down? This is puzzling. I have also seen that quality of teaching is not any better in these private schools (especially in semi-urban towns) and we know for certainty they  indulge in exam malpractices to get results.  Yet their admissions have not suffered. If we compare two such private schools again there is little value addition that can explain the rush for one.  The only thing different is medium of instruction. I wont call it a quality parameter, but are parents cinsidering the medium and the results as the only parameters?

What is it that parents want from a school? Is there any demographic study anywhere?

Girish Mudigere: Ownership missing Sir. We rename with areas name……it makes difference

Yogish: RTE act is also playing major role. Many students are going to private school because of this. Govt indirectly helping them with RTE. this is one of the comment I got from SDMC members my Kodikal school.

+91 7  ………: I too agree

Yogish: As Girish said private school take ownership of their school, they arrange school buses to take govt school kids to their school at free of cost. Now mid day meal and free books available in private aided school too. Teachers are accountability in private school if results are bad.

+91 9 …….: Rte is not a alternate method of supporting poor students.

Yogish: Govt is showing exit door from govt school using RTE, obviously children will use this door and join private schools.

I am not against RTE, but that need to have some modification to make sure that children are not leaving govt school and join private schools

Kollegala Sharma: True. Also if you notice in the urban government schools that you have in focus, the average age of teachers would be (I am guestimating from my experience)  above 45 or 50 for whom there is little motivation to do further. There may be that proverbial 20% who do but that is not sufficient.

Look at the above news. Why not teach English as a language properly. It will solve a lot of problems.

Except IT, performance of students from Karnataka govt schools and universities in National level competitive exams (JEE, NET, AIPMT etc.) is not comparable. One study shows Univ of Bang figuring not even among the top 50 performers. North Indians have an advantage of using Hindi, which we lack. So focusing on teaching English and Kannada properly is a must.

I have been receiving invitatiins from different groups, schools to help them with Oduva Kale like prigramme. I started it thinking that the problem is only in the schools which I have been visiting for the past few years. But it appears to be a state-wide phenomenon.

I won’t say which medium, but we need to strengthen language learning. And urgently.

+91 9  …….: Why should not we think that Govt is fecilitating our students for a better education on par with other student in private good schools ,,,,,,,,

Kollegala Sharma: Government is facilitating. Issue is not in planning. Midday meals was a great idea. It is being copied. Inspite of this we have low admissions.

+91 9 …..: Sir! We have a rotation and non commiting teachers at GOVT schools…….pls don’t feel bad this is the gerneral feeling among people

Kollegala Sharma: No. That should never be the problem. Dont we have govt departments where officials are transferred regularly? Banks work well inspite of transfers. Why not schools?

Yogish: We discussed about English language many times in this group , but many of us don’t like to discuss about it. Therefore we created separate group for that to discuss. I too dropped talking about English and decided to go with the flow.

We have seen so many success story from who adopted the school and started teaching English. I mean they did not change the curriculum. They are making sure that students are fluent in English when they are out of 5th grade or 7th grade. Unfortunately we are very stubborn on local language.

Nagesh TK: ಸರ್ಕಾರಿ ಶಾಲೆನಲ್ಲು ಒಂದನೇ ತರಗತಿಯಿಂದ   English ಇದೆ ಆದರೆ English ಬೋಧಿಸುವ ಶಿಕ್ಷಕರಿಲ್ಲ ಸರ್ ,ಕೆಲ ಶಾಲೆಗಳು ಇದನ್ನ ಉತ್ತಮವಾಗಿ ಅಭಿವೃದ್ಧಿ ಪಡಿಸಲು ಕೆಲಸ ಮಾಡ್ತಿದ್ರು ಆದರೆ ಹೆಚ್ಚುವರಿ ಅಂತ ಮಾಡಿ ಅದನ್ನು ಹಾಳು ಮಾಡಲಾಯಿತು

Yogish: I agree that kids has to learn in mother tongue at initial stages. As per the scientific evidence kids can learn 11 languages in their early ages. Along with local languages why don’t we teach them English, Japanese, French or Mandarin  and prepare them to compete in global world ?. Why do we hate English ?.

I fully understand the NMMO concept and I fully support for it, but I don’t understand the language policy.Good point Nagesh Sir

Nagesh TK: Sure sir if we teach English as a one language parents will come to ours schools sir

Yogish: Today we are at 200. Just 56 less to reach max numbers allowed by whatsup. Let’s not have a fear of failure. Let’s not have a fear of people leaving the group. We are looking for strong, self motivated  volunteers with spirit of volunteerism. Let’s do the right things to develop government schools👍

Girish : 🙂🙏 If comes down to 20 still of added value

Nagesh TK: 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👌🏻👍🏻

Kollegala Sharma: 👍There is lot of work to be done to take the concept across Karnataka. We need volunteers everywhere for all the three things we feel can improve schools.

Yogish: Just called Muralidhar and requested him to stop the water purifier project because it is now sanctioned by government. He said that he will keep the unit ready in case if any school is requesting the unit. Let’s follow up with the govt and local leaders until it is fully installed in Nanjaigaranahalli

HM Sunitha: 👍🙏

Krishnamurthy: We can take rural schools as challenge to improve Govt schools as there is no alternative to govt schools / very less competition with Pvt schools

Nagesh TK: 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🙏🏻

Kollegala Sharma: Yes.I have a request. I need a team of volunteers in Mysore are nearby who can help me in implementation of Oduva Kale programme. We can collectively develop the agenda and try implementation. Alone it is difficult for me to provide the consistent thrust the goal requires. Any takers? Youngsters are most welcome as it involves a lot of travelling week after week.

Krishnamurthy: Sharmaji – Please take help of my sister ( Mrs Bharthi) who works @ Mallupura govt School depending on availability of time.She is in this group already.You can also take help of Mrs Uma who is SDMC member in Maharaja school in Mysore

Uma.vcf (file attached)

Bharati Tab.vcf (file attached)

Kollegala Sharma: Thanks. Will get in touch with them.

Krishnamurthy: Sharmaji – since both are working women they may have very little time at their disposal.But thru them you can build further network

Kollegala Sharma: Yes 😀

PKK Jayalaxmi Gowda: This should be used positively to the growth. As new people coming to new place will bring in new ideas and creativity..Also agree English should be thought as a language and after early years, one cannot forget the language with other language being introduced. Government and people should give a thought on this..

Girish Mudigere: Excellent inputs.Excellent approach

+91 81 ……….: https://youtu.be/pQoJOAxoubM

Dr MD Shivraja: It’s 2013 report👆🏽

Ashok: 😫😞😫🙈😡👹😳😳

+91 81 …….: It is old news ok. only three years.but now. how many schools Become A gread.in karnataka?Hallikere News artical banditu.eshtu old  news.

Girish : Others who wish to discuss languages kindly inform us……we add you to languages group



Edu and Health Discussion:

Girish  added +91 81477 39180

Please add others to discuss on languages here please

Language discussion…..we have this group please…..discuss in this group please

Hemanth Sharma: No I didn’t please ask and let me know if you did. Sorry I some how missed your message

Kollegala Sharma: ನಾನು ಈವತ್ತು ಆಲಿವರ್ ಸ್ಯಾಕ್ಸ್ ಬರೆದ ದಿ ಮೈಂಡ್ಸ್ ಐ ಓದುತ್ತಿದ್ದೆ. ಸ್ಟ್ರೋಕ್ ನಿಂದಾಗಿ ಮಾತನಾಡುವ ಸಾಮರ್ಥ್ಯವನ್ನು ಕಳೆದುಕೊಂಡ ವೃದ್ಧ ಕಲಾವಿದೆಯ ಕಥೆ. ಆಕೆಯ ಅಂತರಂಗದಲ್ಲಿದ್ದ ಖುಷಿ, ಚಿಂತನೆಗಳು ಅವ್ಯಕ್ತವಾಗಿಯೇ ಉಳಿಯದಂತೆ ಆಕೆ ಹೇಗೆಲ್ಲ ಅವನ್ನು ತಿಳಿಸಲು ಪ್ರಯತ್ನಿಸುತ್ತಾರೆ ಅನ್ನುವುದು ವಿಚಾರ. ಅದನ್ನು ಓದುತ್ತಿದ್ದಾಗ ನನಗೆ ಅನಿಸಿದ್ದು.

ಶಾಲೆಯಲ್ಲಿ ಮಕ್ಕಳು ಓದು ಬರೆಯದೆ ಇರುವುದಕ್ಕೆ ಹಲವು ಕಾರಣಗಳಿರಬಹುದು. ಅದು ಗೊತ್ತಿಲ್ಲದಿದ್ದರೂ ತಮ್ಮ ಅನಿಸಿಕೆಗಳನ್ನು, ಅರಿವನ್ನು, ತಿಳುವಳಿಕೆಯನ್ನು ವ್ಯಕ್ತ ಪಡಿಸಲು ಏನಾದರೂ ದಾರಿ ಹುಡುಕಿಯೇ ಹುಡುಕಿರುತ್ತಾರೆ. ನಾವು ಅದನ್ನು ಕಂಡುಕೊಂಡಿಲ್ಲವೇನೋ?

ಕೇವಲ ಪ್ರಶ್ನೋತ್ತರಗಳಿಂದ ಅವರ ಅರಿವನ್ನು ಪರೀಕ್ಷಿಸುವುದು ಎಷ್ಟು ಸರಿ?

ಸಿಸಿಇ ಯೋಜನೆಗಳಲ್ಲೂ ಓದು, ಬರವಣಿಗೆಯನ್ನೇ ಮೂಲವಾಗಿಟ್ಟುಕೊಳ್ಳುವುದು ಸರಿಯೇ?

ಈ ಎಲ್ಲ ಯೋಚನೆಗಳು ಕೊರೆಯುತ್ತಿದ್ದಾಗ ಈ ಫಾರ್ವರ್ಡ್ ಬಂತು

ಇದನ್ನು ಓದುವುದು ಸವಾಲು ಅನ್ನಿಸದಿದ್ದರೂ ಖುಷಿಯಾಯಿತು. ಗೋಜಲು ಪದಗಳ ಆಟ ಆಡುತ್ತೇವಲ್ಲ ಹಾಗೆ.

ಕನ್ನಡದಲ್ಲೂ ಹೀಗೊಂದು ಪ್ಯಾರಾ ಸಿದ್ಧ ಪಡಿಸಿ ಓದುವುದರ ಪರೀಕ್ಷೆ ಮಾಡಿದರೆ ಹೇಗಿರಬಹುದು?

ಇದೋ ಒಂದು ವಾಕ್ಯ.

ಕನ್ನಡ ಶಾಲೆ: ದಕುಬೆಳ ತಲ್ಲಿರ್ವಾನಿದ ಗವೇ ಕಂಡಿಸೆಗೆ ಮೂಕ್ಷಲರು ಮೀಕಿ ಆರುಗಿತ್ತದೆ.: ಇದು ಹೇಗೆ?

ಕನ್ನಡ ಪಾಠ ಮಾಡುವಾಗ ವಿಜ್ಞಾನದ ಈ ವಾಕ್ಯಗಳನ್ನು ಹೀಗೆ ಬಳಸಿದರೆ ಕನ್ನಡ ಹೇಳಿಕೊಟ್ಟ ಹಾಗೂ ಆಗತ್ತೆ. ವಿಜ್ಞಾನ ನೆನಪಿಸಿದ ಹಾಗೂ ಆಗುತ್ತೆ. ವಿಜ್ಞಾನ, ಕನ್ನಡ ಶಿಕ್ಷಕರಿಬ್ಬರೂ ಜೊತೆಯಾಗಬೇಕಷ್ಟೆ.


Sept 24 Training:

Yogish added Must Lankesh

Added Lankesh Kumar a new participant for our workshop

Welcome Lankesh Kumar 🙏💐

Lankesh: Thanks  Hi to all in the group

Yogish: Lankesh Kumar is planning to come with raspberry Pi Kit for the workshop.

http://developschools.org/projects/events/workshop-on-creative-computing-using-scratch-on-raspberry-pi please check this URL to know more about the workshop

https://goo.gl/maps/8GWPNxQmkWN2 for driving direction to venue

Hemanth Sharma: I have done following things in rs pi:

  1. Installation Raspbian using NOOBs

2.WiFi update manually as connection was hidden

3.Audio video verification ran you tube working very good

4.Installing VNC server still need to configure it, connection to raspberry not working, will debug tomorrow

I am bringing kit too to training

Yogish: Hemanth 👍

Hemanth Sharma: 🙏

Girish Mudigere: 👍🙏

+91 7  …..: Which model of Raspi you are using ?

Hemanth Sharma: Pi 3 model B

Yogish: I could not control my sleep while learning Python. Had a good 3 hours of sleep until 6 pm 😄.

Gururaj Paramesha: Wow.Yogish for Python which book you are referring. ?Waiting for 24th to come..

Yogish: Simon Monk that Kiran suggested. Good beginners guide for projects

Gururaj Paramesha: 👍

Yogish: I thought you are looking for 24th participant. we have 23 in this group 😄

Gururaj Paramesha: 😂😂😂😂

+91 7 ………: @Hemanth, assuming you have used this approach for installation of VNC


Next : Please ensure that your raspberry PI and your phone/Tablet are on the same wifi network. It woks without any issue. Call me if you still not able to connect. 98  ……..

– +91 7 ……….: Server will be listening through port no  5901 Give address as IP::5901

Hemanth Sharma: Thanks kiran for replying so fast, I am not done with configuration yet and also configure vnc as service, will check today / tomorrow as kids are there they will not let me touch tv

Hello Kiran, at service lightdm stop in the guidelines you provided I closed the current display tv and after that need to shutdown now system is asking login and password I didn’t provide any. Now I am stucked as I can not login to Raspbian any way any idea what could be done now?

Default userid is …i Pwd is r….. let me know if still you have issue

Hemanth Sharma: I tried that too not working

Yogish: https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/119393088

Gururaj Paramesha: 🙄🙄😇😇😇😇😀😀

Yogish: This was created by daughter in her school. When I was typing some scratch code she showed her projects in scratch.  I did not know that this was in my curriculum.You need flash player to play this game.

Found a bug in the code 😄. It’s updating the score, but Mice Left is not getting updated.

Yogish: So you share the project that you made.

+91 7  ………….: So back to school 😉

Yogish: Yes

https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/120791245 is my first project. Plane takeoff

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