Group Discussions – May 12 2016

Girish Mudigere: added MUST Umesh Nagalotimath: Welcome Dr Umesh Sir. Currently in Liverpool England UK – Doctor, kindly introduce yourself and your ideas to improve Government Schools please
Thanks Naveen Kalgudi sir for introducing Doctor

Umesh Nagalotimath: Thanks for adding me in the group. I studied in kannada Medium till 10 th because of my father’s( Dr SJ Nagalotimath) vision. I was working as professor and HOD of ENT at Karnataka Institute of Medical Sciences, Hubli . I am Director of Sushruta Multispeciality Hospital ( 180 beds) in Hubli. I took VRS and came to UK. Presently working as ENT doctor in Chester, UK.

I am interested in social service, teaching and research.

Girish Mudigere: Awesome Dr….thank you very much sir. When you have time kindly share your experiences with Government Schools. Teaching staff, your heart related and health related lectures ……and how we can take your help in our government schools through Skype etc

Girish Mudigere: Today how if we focus on top ten items which needs our attention to improve Government Schools? I feel the above shouldn’t stop your thoughts and flow…..feel free what is top of your mind to improve. Lets shortly get deeper into actions

Kollegala Sharma: 10 th science CBSE I will need, My wife is a CBSE teacher and I go to all schools including CBSE and may need it. Yogish is it possible?

Girish Mudigere: Awesome sir…….lets also try keeping in central place and download for more copies…..Yogish sir will bring five set

1. Naveen Sir

2. Sharma Sir (Mrs too) – Others Please add your name if needed

Yogish: Please go to our website and double check whether it is right CBSE content ?

I am downloading 10th grade maths and science

Sri Harsha: Let’s discuss and focus about teachers and the support we can provide them,including study materials and technology today..

RaviRaj: Welcome Dr.Umesh sir…we have heard a lot on your father SJN …happy to hear that you’re his son and joined our group in helping government schools. Hearty welcome sir

Linnet D Silva: That’s a great news indeed. I am very happy to meet him in this group.

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ಶಿವಕುಮಾರ್ ಹೊಸಮನಿ: Dr.naglotimatt….bhaaala dodda VAIDYARU ….kelvala vaidyarall….MAHAAN CHETHANA!! Idu uthprekshe alla embudu avara bagge thilida ellara abhipraaya…. AVARA MAGA namma lli iruvudu nijakkoo santhosha.

ಶಿವಕುಮಾರ್ ಹೊಸಮನಿ: SAMARPANA…namma sanghavu kaleda 10 varsha galinda BENGALURina vidyaarthi galinda “HALEYA NOTE PUSTHAKA “sangrahisi…(sumaaru 1.5 koti sangrahisida daakhale ide) avugalannu HOSA PUSTHAKA galanthe BIND maadisi..UCHITHA vaagi vitharisuva PUNARBALAKE yojane nadeside. kaaranaanthara galinda ee varsha aarambhisilla ashte

Chandrakant Acharya: Wonderful shivakumar sir!!! Pleasure to welcome all new members!! Kind request, those posting either post in Kannada script Kannada or English!! It is a bit awkward to read Kannada text in English

ಶಿವಕುಮಾರ್ ಹೊಸಮನಿ: …SHAALEgalalli Sasi/gida neduva bagge :SHAALE galavaru BBMP ge manavi pathra koduvudu…VAASTHAVAvaagi kashtasaadhya… NANNA avashyakathe iddare…NAMMA sangha kke maahithi kottare….naaVU bbmp inda gida kodisabahudu….AAYAAA shaalege kodnu vayyuva javaabdaari shaale yavare vahisikollabeku ashte

Kalgudi Naveen: Sir, normally it is said that there is no short cut for success. But, if we make reading autobiography of Dr. Umesh’s noble father, Dr. SJ Nagalotimath, mandatory for all students and teachers, system changes automatically! It is bicchida jolige. Even Govt brought a cheaper edition of this book. It worth dropping all our works and pick up a copy of the book and start reading it.

RaviRaj: Thank you Naveen sir for mentioning SJN s autobiography ….

HM Sunitha: I have this book in my collection and i am proud have that book.

Kalgudi Naveen: That book has my name in that. Pl see. ಹೌದು ಇದು ಜಂಭಕ್ಕಾಗಿಯೇ ಹೇಳುತ್ತಿರುವುದು!

Guru Poornima: I met Acf , he has assured to supply saplings… And I have convinced him to give the list of schools …and we will have to make pits in each school…..each school s requirement has to be mentioned in the list. Please give the school list and requirement if each school Manoj

Manoj: Saturday yogish sir decided to have meet. There i vil be issuing it

Guru Poornima: S I know please talk to him …about the latest development

Yogish: Thank you Poornima, Manoj and Gururaj . Let’s meet this Saturday with Girish. I will schedule a meeting soon and inform. Let’s discuss in details related to tree planting.

Guru Poornima: Yogish we need proper proforma for school list. Kannada language is better I feel

Yogish: Name of the school, address of the school, contact number, number of saplings requirements and HM’s seal and signature is enough right ?

Surendra Shetty: I am working for a multinational company as Manager Corporate social responsibility. Office based at Mangalore & taking care of few talukas at D K & Udupi Dist. V r distributing good amount of money as scholarship every year to the underprivileged, deserving, meritorius, rural based, studying in mainly in kannada medium schools till matriculation, differently abled, single parent, loss of both parents etc. Also lat year v planted more than 6500 plants thru schools etc. requested for honest, committed, service oriented volunters to work on this project

Girish Mudigere: Welcome Surendra Shetty Sir….also thanks to Lokesh sir for adding you

Girish Mudigere: Overall good discussions ….really appreciate keeping away names of political leaders……we never wish politicians names please. Karthik sir…..kindly avoid above post…….lets focus on schools improvement please

Sri Harsha: The topic or idea of focus was on teachers and support we need to provide them

Chaya Chandra Acharya: We can with some efforts can provide infrastructure, but teacher, teaching, changing is Herculean task!!

Surendra Shetty: V would b interested after a proper survey/ support to identify one or two govt high schools connected with full stream of Anganavadi, elementary, PUC at Bantwal taluk for adoption if some one takes full responsibility with highest student strength, full infrastructure, full teacher strength, etc.Pl comment.Let some one of us show the path for development at the end of this total

last year visited & interacted with more than 140 institutions personally .Identified 2500 students for scholarship. Around 95 new computers isdued to 6 schools. 3 schools implemented with toilet upgradation.Few class rooms donated. But v r not happy since no reponsibility, accountability, proper follow ups etc.A lot to b improved.

Chaya Chandra Acharya: U mean to say one model school

Linnet D Silva: Please D K is developed quite a lot. Choose other district where more need is there.

Whatsapp Guru Poornima: North Karnataka is underpreveleged

Linnet D Silva: We can be objective both in the area as well as contact: Location

Girish Mudigere: Our comparison is with international Government schools;Lets improve all schools beyond. Surendra sir….excellent input……one of us meet your requirements and work together ……kindly give couple of days please. lets focus on solutions …..sure

Sri Harsha: we all are motivated people who are here to do some changes and good for the schools..but we need to have actionable items or objectives..we have wonderful ideas but we need to focus on what can we do and a route to find a solution.. let’s please discuss more and more objectively and identify who will do what please..we can have short term and long term solutions for everything..

Guru Poornima: I have heard in many schools teachers are lacking with learning teaching materials… Is it true linnet ma’am? Teaching aids I mean

Manoj: Lab instuments with theory sub, Practical apparutus are lacking in many schools

Guru Poornima: An Interactive Teaching – Learning Tool for Underprivileged Children in Rural Schools us been designed I learnt

Geetha: And lab also. Sometimes some aids can be prepared ourselves,but many of us Dont know low cost methods to prepare,and sometimes dont know how to prepare,….if we search we can get,everyone Dont have. One more thing is,it is difficult to spend cost to individual Tr.to spend all the time…it is the reality

Guru Poornima: S teaching job us noble job. We must respect Teacher s psychology. We have to set our accordingly and give results. Set our mind

Linnet D Silva: Yes many schools do not have adequate teaching aids. And many teachers do not have willingness to be creative in using no cost or low cost. Like grains, pebbles etc. I am speaking of primary.

I saw the smart board where all lessons can be taught very easily.

Guru Poornima: We had been taught as to creative with minimum requirement with maximum effort

Apart from materialstic drawbacks. There are also psychological problems for teachers isn’t it? Co ordination part I mean

Linnet D Silva: Education system or department has become an industry in itself. It was supposed to be a service. Creating human resource.

Sri Harsha: How can we tackle this problem??yes there are problems..but what can we do to solve this ??that is to find what can we do..??anyone please. A humble request to teachers in this group..what do you think is needed for you to make it better

Girish Mudigere: Example ….Yakub sir….created excellent notes…..we can help publishing

Guru Poornima: One more thing is the government recruiting computer teachers if so , are they providing proper infrastructure ?

Courtesy :::Education times A dedicate d teacher exoresses taught in schools with students from low-income households. It was a source of great professional fulfillment for me. I witnessed daily triumphs and joys that more than offset the particular difficulties in working with economically deprived children.

On the day the district presented me with its Golden Apple Award for excellence in teaching, a colleague approached me, pointed to the award, and suggested that now I could finally “get out of this low-income school.” I think he meant I could get a job at a middle- or high-income school since I had an award to my name.

Often the public, and even educators, view working with economically stressed children as something that lesser teachers do. There’s a perception that the really good teachers work in schools that cater to students from wealthy families.

Girish Mudigere: Today’s topic – Teachers and what support do they need

Sri Harsha: This includes infrastructure or books or teaching methods ..please try to see what problems do they face and how can we help

Kollegala Sharma: @ Linnet… yes. For teaching maths and science in primary we dont need high tech resources. All we need is some creativity, which can be learnt too. DS web site can give insights of how one can be creative with whatever is on hand. There are resources available. All we need to do is collate and extend to teachers.

Sri Harsha: Sir do you think we can identify small companies which create creative methods of teaching to share with teachers ??

Yogish: Yes I agree. resources are available but is not reaching to right people Mat be schools are not interested to access or don’t have facilities to access. For example Yakub sir did an excellent work on math video, but did not reach many schools and students.

Sunitha says: Just felt to mention for the social studies globe maps for different information hardly available and even the charts. For dates detailed higerairchy of events to inter connect events available

Linnet D Silva: Dharmastala institutions offered such material. I made extra effort to reach these to many government schools. Many kept nicely in the cupboards.

This year sports material Deeksha provided but gave directly to students group. It worked.

Kollegala Sharma: There are schools where there are 3 to 4 sets of charts and models, but not used.

Yogish: We can create or collect as many as study materials in all the languages, but effort us going to be wasted if schools don’t have technology or Internet/computers to access these resources. That’s why I am bringing these resources downloading in to USB drive only to few schools. We can’t do it for all the schools

Sri Harsha: I read a lot of comments on low morale or motivation for teachers…is there something we can work on.

for example seminars or talks by experienced teachers or successful people in the society ??

Kollegala Sharma: We have been trying.

Sri Harsha: Right sir..as we have a big group now and working as a group is there something we can try for more ??

Jayalaxmi Gowda: Very nice discussion on teacher resources – A passionate teacher can and will think of many ways to teach

Kollegala Sharma: One of the demotivstors is lack of access to info. A creative teacher deels miserable when he cant satisfy the curiosity. Providing resources to make him confident is one way

Chaya Chandra Acharya: My suggestion r as follows. 1. Take a material prepared by azim premji foundation to find the level of children. 2. Segregate them as per their level and group. 3. Fix a time frame to improve them step by step. 4/ Conduct again a test and regroup thrm

As per teaching aid, arvindguptatoys.com. is the best, agasthya foundation in koppam

Yogish: Good to know that video’s listed in arvindguptatoys.com people (as per the view count)

Kollegala Sharma: Yes. Arvind Gupta has been used everywhere. But most of it stops at physics. We need chemistry, biology, maths too. I would like to motivate teachers to develop their own aids. AG can be the guide.

Kalgudi Naveen: Aravinda gupta’s books are available in kannada: VSS Shastry has translated

And Navakarnataka has published them http://www.navakarnatakaonline.com/bookslist

Chaya Chandra Acharya: Once we do a group of children who needs help subject wise, we can arrange volunteers . that is a difficult task. I do not whether through tablet we can teach(Skype) , or in person.

There is a book also ten little fingers which contains lot of maths activities. Taralaya in Bangalore conducts workshop on teacher development regularly just for rs 200 to rs 300, it is too good.

Kollegala Sharma: Anybody from SVYM? Please provide your learning from Prem Vidya! About content development, delivery, acceptance and impact.

For others. SVYM developed video lessons and provided DVD players for students to explore and learn from them on their own. I found one school using it for biology classes because there was no biology teacher there.

Chaya Chandra Acharya: One Mr Madhusudan in taralaya is too good resources person, he always deals with teachers

Kollegala Sharma: I have a suggestion. First identify subject wise resource persons and bring them to a discussion table. Evolve a methodology to reach out to schools. (Right now each RP is engaged separately… ). We can create a wholesome team of RPs who can then reach out to both teachers and students. To have an impact continuous interaction is necessary. Interaction between RPs and teachers.

Linnet D Silva: If we try focusing on few schools we can use these resources

Jayalaxmi Gowda: That should be our action plan: Sharma avare and group let’s elaborate on how to put Sharma avara suggestion in action

Chaya Chandra Acharya: I agree with sir abt continues interaction, the only thing we have to try is how to LOVE children , if teacher does this no PBM. We better concentrate on this

Chaya Chandra Acharya: It is less priced also. I feel teachers need not do, children does it nicely. I am talking abt teaching aid

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Renni D’souza: Every. Class one teacher should be there whether it is less or more children And teacher should always available to children all the time

Linnet D Silva: In many government schools there are no class wise teachers. There are a lot with combined classes. : Then it is child friendly atmosphere is what is needed. Child centric

Renni D’souza: 0 teachers in 1300 schools inKarnataka as government statistics

RaviRaj: And the teachers have lot of clerical work to do: Which hinders the academic work…both teaching n learning: Most of the parents leave whole responsibility on teachers which also affects learning ……As linnet told multiclass by single teacher may be necessity for government due to technical reasons but for teacher its a burden

Linnet D Silva: Hence teaching is set to corners. Department work becomes important to them.

Department also doesn’t decide what information they need throughout the year. They dream of new stats and make new formats.

Chaya Chandra Acharya: But in spite of all this if teacher teach 3 periods properly is enough

Renni D’souza: ತರಗತಿಗೊಂದು ಶಿಕ್ಷಕರಿದ್ದರೆ ಗುಣಮಟ್ಟ ದ ಶಿಕ್ಷಣ ವನ್ನು ಸುಲಭವಾಗಿ ಸಾಧಿಸಬಹುದು ನಾವು ಮಾಡುವ ಎಲ್ಲಾ ಪ್ರಯತ್ನ ದ ಜತೆ long term goal,ನ್ನು ಮರೆಯ ಬಾರದು ಶಿಕ್ಷಣ ಒದಗಿಸುವ ಜವಬ್ಬಾರಿ ಸರಕಾರದ್ದೇ.ನಾವು facililtation ಮಾಡ ಬಹುದು

Jayalaxmi Gowda: Yes we need to pick short term and long term goals

Sri Harsha: Thank you ..agree with you..short term and long term solutions is what we need..the whole idea of focusing under categories is “WE” apart from the government,can we help..??and what to address.. To identify problems and develop short term and long term solutions..so let’s please for a week concentrate on listing the problems..

Chaya Chandra Acharya: Short term : identify teacher children ratio. 2. Find the major reason 3. Discuss with parent, HM and teacher; Chaya Chandra Acharya: Reason for teacher shortage, child learning ability

Renni D’souza: Need based training and motivation to teachers SDMC members

Chaya Chandra Acharya: How to identify need based training sir. I want to experiment in school. I need both but need based is a better. Why I am asking is whenever I tried to train them for handling of children, I myself get lost. Because after a week again teacher will be same

Renni D’souza: It differ from school to school. For this we have start to with teachers where they are If we are ready to listen to teacher at school level they are definitely share their need Based on this we have to priorities their need and plan. Depends upon our expertise and available of resources at locally we cab do this

Yes also competancy and other obstacle in their school learning atmosphere

Chaya Chandra Acharya: I teach for orphanage children who r studying in govt school. These Children have three prob. One at school, other at orphanage, another their own. In school teacher ignore them , leave them , no follow up for completing the notes also. Some other children r also facing similar prob. How to tackle. Group member please ignore if is my only prob

Girish Mudigere: Appreciate highly focused and elaborate discussion by each of you. We touching tip of ice burg……but a good one…….lets get into action plans before really diving into actions. 1000s of NGOs jumped into actions……..lets take their help to bring noticeable real changes

Renni D’souza: Regarding monitoring last year we (PADI) along DiET Lecturer we visited 15 schools inDK district with their Check list regarding learning and teaching. This really Eye opening to teachers. And they got immediate Solution from the Lecturer We also prepared child friendly school Check list. That is helped a lot to teacher to improve in future. BUT IT IS NOT INSPECTION I think this works Only DIET has to cooperate

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